Pakistan Nuclear Program and Blaspemy Laws, Boggeymen to haunt whom???


Pakistan in start of its journey as an independent Muslim state took no time to  focus its all efforts and resources to convert as  strong military state  against giant India.We fought three wars against India and it somehow justified heavy defense budget .These days we are internationally known as  having  5th largest army in the world which is now fighting within Pakistan for last 6 years to eradicate home-grown terrorism.

Pakistan and its officials always feel  proud to declare that they we are first nuclear power of Islamic world no matter our majority’s living without  basic facilities which are always responsibility of state to provide to its citizens.


We made strong blasphemous laws to harass weak people, minorities to secure our religious beliefs as we have made Pakistan on the name of Islam.

We always welcome and praise  our army whenever it comes to conquer its own state.111 Brigade is secured and nurtured through public money to conquer Islamabad on the order of Chief of army and demand of people of Pakistan.

Since 1960s we started chasing nuclear technology mostly to get the nuclear arms as our military heads were highly impressed by destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki Via US technology .They thought it was best way to harass India and others through  such nuclear arms.Since that time we have spent millions of Dollar on making nuclear arms and its accessories to run side by side with India in this deadly arsenals.

Our desperation for  getting this lethal technology is so strong that we didn’t bother to sign NPT(The Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty).The objective  of this NPT is to prevent the spread of nuclear weapons and weapons technology, to promote co-operation in the peaceful uses of nuclear energy and the goal of achieving nuclear disarmament and  complete disarmament. Some 180 countries thus agreed not to pursue nuclear weapons but Pakistani govt was resilient to use this technology against its enemies specially India.

The hiring of en ex Indian scientist for Pakistani nuclear program for making such dirty bombs and threatening his last mother land itself showed the abnormality of that program where designers earned billion through private deals while sitting in govt offices and US had cashed its research program by selling this one of dangerous technology against humanity to  our goof Head of states.This NPT has been ratified by 187 countries who in past fought against each other, more than any other arms limitation but along with Pakistan,India, Israel and Cuba didn’t sign it and  after 40 years all poor countries like Pakistan are spending billion dollars for maintaining nuclear facilities and its updated accessories.

These arms were initially  marketed on the basis that it would reduce the expanding military costs and give protection to smaller countries,Time has shown that nothing happened like that .None of country that didn’t sign NPT  reduced its military expansion plans. In addition to this different  kind of atrocities have also  been reported in their accounts on the basis of having nuclear arms.Israel is on the top of list , Pakistan is now labeled as exporter of terrorism in civilized  nations under umbrella of this nuclear arms and India is still busy in expanding its all kinds of arms deals by provoking country like Pakistan where military is all in all in state matters.

.Now through exposure to outer world even a child of Pakistan is  now aware that  possessing something  like that is so deadly. These radiation bombs can destroy most life on Earth and  better describe as national and global suicide devices rather than weapons.

A photograph of  back injuries taken in January 1946 by a U.S. Marine photographer.

Our leadership in past took one of dangerous move of   making  nuclear arms without judging its complexity.

The cost of  Nuclear research, development, testing, deployment, maintenance and associated intelligence activities  have overpowered over major human necessities and then completely  swapped our human development projects  .It is just like that for creating a bogeyman for enemies we discarded our own citizens which were reached   in millions.

A sensible and qualified Nuclear scientist is quite sure that Nuclear attacks can’t restrict war’s extent to only regional level but can bring immediate integrated and  irreversible global damages in form of massive retaliation through continuous chain reaction of nuclear reactants.But our team of experts ignored all  seen disasters of Japan cities and followed this path by politically brainwashing poor nation as it is only ultimate goal of our lives to threat India through nuclear war heads.

If some how we think of using it against India then one can accept silence of lamb like situation against it?.What could have   happened to our region if both have used it against each other?

The countries which didn’t sign on NPT has ever assessed such huge damage of earth ,its inhabitant and its surrounding ?

If some sensible team of management tries to estimate the costs of damage to the land, illnesses of exposures, cancer deaths from nuclear pollution, and storage of nuclear waste for centuries are added, the price becomes unaccountable.

Some countries have already given up nuclear weapons, showing that it is possible for a nation to be secure without them.i,e Three former Soviet republics, Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine, became nuclear weapons free states by voluntarily transferring their nuclear warheads to Russia . South Africa developed a small nuclear arsenal  and then dismantled it. Argentina and Brazil have also eliminated their nuclear weapons programs even though they achieved initial success in these programs.

So Pakistan under military rules created many bogeyman like issues to haunt its enemies and even local masses .For harassing weak and illiterate class special kinds of Blasphemy laws were created on the basis of history facts and then imposed wrongly on public . Since the time of Zia these laws are being used and abused to settle personal scores, killing Christians , Qadiaynis and  Hindus .Later on their  homes and properties are burnt to escalate this violence and projecting Islamic laws as threat for non-Muslims living in Pakistan.

Most victims of such bomb laws are  from minorities or poor classes who are  throughout being considered  as lower mutilated citizens of Pakistan and that would naturally pass superiority complex to brain washed Muslim majority.

Any how in all ways Islam is secured in Pakistan by activating Blasphemy laws and India is threatened by our Nuclear arsenals.This is main theme of our governance under military rules without giving any check and balance to  all kind of state corruption and malpractices .

Final result of all such polices  have been achieved .Today our Hero  nuclear scientist is now declared as international criminal for selling technology to open market, our army is chasing the idols of Islam in our mountains who for last 8 years are blowing and killing Pakistanis in the name of Islam.

We entered in 21st century with our hand-made bogeymen.But this time they have been switched to backlash mode and now we being a first nuclear Islamic power is living powerless in our insecure houses.We are still unable to create any kind of road map for human development for managing 170 million people.Outside our homes,  soldiers of Islam are roaming there  and  misusing  these mullah made  Blasphemy laws to drive the Pakistani folks in particular direction of their choice.

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21 Responses to Pakistan Nuclear Program and Blaspemy Laws, Boggeymen to haunt whom???

  1. united4justice says:

    “Pakistan in start of its journey as an independent Muslim state took no time to focus its all efforts and resources to convert as strong military state against giant India.”

    correct but the main reason was to get the hold of our countries resources in the name of security.

    “Pakistan and its officials always feel proud to declare that they we are first nuclear power of Islamic world no matter our majority’s living without basic facilities which are always responsibility of state to provide to its citizens.”

    correct they do it coz they don’t know that the technology can be used to earn billions of dollars for the people. it can be used in agriculture, energy, medicine etc but again the responsibility is on the shoulders of ruling elite which lacks the vision of doing it as far as scientists are concerned , they deliverd the technology. my bet is to open the area for private investors like recent deal between Microsoft and Toshiba for the development of nuclear reactors .it will save lots of taxpayers money and will result in creation of wealth in society as more jobs will be created and more industry will grow.

    “We made strong blasphemous laws to harass weak people, minorities to secure our religious beliefs as we have made Pakistan on the name of Islam.”

    most of the time its personal grudge which leads to this , i ve seen many muslims being persecuted for this. the law in itself has many lackings and flaws and it should be revised to make it better. this law has been misused like hlocaust laws in europe and has served as a tool for suppressing freedom of expression and relgion. however i am in favor of mutual agreements between religious communities for mutual respect and if to cater that some legislation is made or current laws are revised coz this will help in peaceful mutual existance otherwise any paster terry jones can ignite a fire between communities and start a civil war for no reason.

    “The hiring of en ex Indian scientist for Pakistani nuclear program for making such dirty bombs ”

    i dont think ex indian title was required here otherwise whole Pakistan is ex india and all Pakistanis above 63 years of age are ex Indian, we also need to see why india opted for the technology. recent statement by indian armcy chief of having a military strategy to cater china and pakistan cannot be overlooked.

    “These arms were initially marketed on the basis that it would reduce the expanding military costs and give protection to smaller countries,”

    this can be done if missile technology, nuclear technology and airforce are used as a main focus of defense policy. after kargil this was in the air but military in musharraf’s time by using international pressure to make nuclear plants secure took control of the nuclear policy. also what it has done is that it has created hurdles in getting other benefits which we can get from the technology like using it for civil purposes, which could ve taken our economy in a real good position to serve the interests of our people like in france they use nuclear technology to produce 75 percent power.

    “A sensible and qualified Nuclear scientist is quite sure that Nuclear attacks can’t restrict war’s extent to only regional level but can bring immediate integrated and irreversible global damages in form of massive retaliation through continuous chain reaction of nuclear reactants.But our team of experts ignored all seen disasters of Japan cities and followed this path by politically brainwashing poor nation as it is only ultimate goal of our lives to threat India through nuclear war heads. ”

    this is with a philosophy that nuclear weapons are made to attack not as a detterence against other countries nuclear ambitions. however even if it is used for some purpose in defense measure can be taken to not only minimize the damage but to avoid civilian areas targets. Tactical nuclear weapons can work as means to hit enemy target in battlefield instead of huge expensive conventional bombs by avoiding any risk to civilian population. now the question of war comes then its again is not only dependent on local policy makers but also on policy makers on the other side and for that one needs a war free world which i cannot see in near future.

    now nuclear explosion technology is being seen as a serious candidate for space exploration (see project orion).

    my bet is in opposing the harmful effects of any techology and they way our estiblashment sees it or the lacking of their vision , one should also see other possible aspects too. the reality is we have a technology , call it anything or need of time after indian explosions in 1974 or a result of fears as our military failed to defend the country and protect its people in 71,we have ways to use it for economic benefits by using it in other areas and opening the area for private sector which includes selling nuclear research for commercial purposes to get maximum economic benefits and minimizing taxpayers expense.

    not only governments but our so called liberals also need to broadened their vision, world is going way ahead and new technologies are being developed (even nuclear technology is a bit old now if we look at the LHC type projects involving energy levels greater than the centre of Sun). we need to see how we can get the best out of the available technologies not to ban the use of it.

  2. united4justice says:

    “Today our Hero nuclear scientist is now declared as international criminal for selling technology to open market”

    even if some technology is sold in open market , its not illegal . if toshiba-microsoft is legal then y pak-iran or pak-china deals are illegal? we need to come out of this slave mentality of what others think of us. we need to make decisions in the better interests of our economy and people.

  3. Nazia says:

    U4J
    When any technology has come in market it has always two sides of its use.
    One is beneficiary and other is its negative effects on majority population.
    This is the job of leaders and managers to adopt the best part of technology that would benefit most of majority of people.
    This is what we have done in case of Nuclear technology.
    Scientists have all kind of options but decision makers order them to pursue technology as per demand of rulers.That was the reason dr abdus salam was removed from the scene and basically corrupt men was backed by bhutto for developing nuclear arms within Pakistan vicinity.
    in Pakistan trend of adopting technology is quite opposite that other developed country.
    France and Pakistan has started nuclear program almost same year and now their 90% power generation is through such technology.We didn’t bother it to apply even in our agriculture engineering on which our 75% population is dependent.
    We made abnormal defense deals without seeing its political consequences in the start and become reason of arms race in the region.
    We as nation groomed and strongly on the basis of hatred sentiments for India..
    Those people or nation who grow up on culture of hate and enmity cant focus on positivity and human development.
    That is why we have history of 4 martial laws, we lost east Pakistan, attacked Baluchistan many times and now having war in our northern side for last 7 years.Kashmir issue is still faraway from our military and political tactics which has always been projected as main reason of hate for India.

    For deterrence purpose is it justified that millions of rupees are taken away from govt development funds and let people in the state of no facility .
    What is justification of concentrating more on harassing the enemy and poorly neglecting citizens of Pakistan who are now behaving like frustrated living beings of this planet.
    Dr khan has spent best part of his student life in Bhopal India his birth place.
    Go to his statements in which he threatened India many time by his created nuclear bombs.
    was he not aware of Indian nuclear program, their capacity and capability of utilizing this technology too.
    There was written statements of KRL and PAEC senior scientists against his movement/working and out of range living style while his job was in KRL. But he was protected by big wigs for personal gains that had started inner games of selling this technology on personal basis and it had no link with national interests.
    You can say dr khan, his associates and military heads behaved like top state opportunists to become over rich through selling this dangerous technology.
    Nuclear arms are made with some serious restrictions and it is not like Microsoft deals that have different aspect of illegal marketing.
    Tell me use of single war fare where it has been used for localized military attack.
    It was always marketed and research to destroy the urban areas of enemy.If dr khan claimed many times that he could have destroyed 4 to 8 Indian cities.
    Dr khan was criminal of Pakistan and India too.If you have an offer of US citizenship and have all facilities of living there and in return they would ask you to design to bomb your Karachi.
    If you would have done it what should I call you.
    That is what I am calling dr khan a senseless man an opportunist and a zero character person

  4. united4justice says:

    “Dr khan was criminal of Pakistan and India too.If you have an offer of US citizenship and have all facilities of living there and in return they would ask you to design to bomb your Karachi.”

    he is a citizen of pakistan and was a citizen of pakistan before he joined the nuclear program. calling him indian is not justified as he was one of many who left india to own a new homeland.

    “There was written statements of KRL and PAEC senior scientists against his movement/working and out of range living style while his job was in KRL”

    there was lots of politics going on in krl and paec specially when paec failed to prepare enriched material for the task.

    “For deterrence purpose is it justified that millions of rupees are taken away from govt development funds and let people in the state of no facility .
    What is justification of concentrating more on harassing the enemy and poorly neglecting citizens of Pakistan who are now behaving like frustrated living beings of this planet.”

    deterrence is not cornering or harrassing , it is used to protect ur self from being cornered and harrassed. it is not the presence of nuclear technology here in pakistan but the presence of incompetent leadership which has lead us to current weak and slave position. as far as failure in providing facilities to people i can bet things would not ve been much different if we didnt go for nuclear program. its related to our policy making in economic areas. in fact if we use the technology things can get better as for any good or bad reason a good decision was made to acquire nuclear technology. again i must say open it for private sector and international fundings (without getting worried about global master who think its their discretion to decide wots legal and wots not), this will not only save tax money but will result in economic prosperity.

    “It was always marketed and research to destroy the urban areas of enemy.If dr khan claimed many times that he could have destroyed 4 to 8 Indian cities.”

    we all know claims like these are made to tell the enemy that we ve our options. remember it was india which created nuclear threat first in 74 and even after 98 blasts their tone changed to regional master.

    “Nuclear arms are made with some serious restrictions and it is not like Microsoft deals that have different aspect of illegal marketing.”

    fundamental technology base is same no matter how much civilian it is portrayed. who the hell puts the restrictions? where these restrictions go when nuclear arms are supplied to israel by usa and france?
    if a technology exists and used by few big countries then smaller countries have the right to develop it and share it.

    “Those people or nation who grow up on culture of hate and enmity cant focus on positivity and human development.
    That is why we have history of 4 martial laws, we lost east Pakistan, attacked Baluchistan many times and now having war in our northern side for last 7 years.Kashmir issue is still faraway from our military and political tactics which has always been projected as main reason of hate for India.”

    this happens mostly out of fear and sense of insecurity. my go is make our own country strong in all aspects of economy, technology etc without building policies on fear. even in nuclear , though india provided the drive to start it but my go is not to make it india centric and develop the technology beyond this purpose.as far as military rule and failures are concerned , its a long story which has less to do with technology. in fact military is a main hurdle is using it for better purpose as it provides a possible conflict of interests by making the counry defense ,less dependent on army. but now during mushi time they took the control of technology to please their masters and so a bad situation is there which is not the fault of scientists.

    “France and Pakistan has started nuclear program almost same year and now their 90% power generation is through such technology.We didn’t bother it to apply even in our agriculture engineering on which our 75% population is dependent.”

    coz our leadership never had the vision even though scientists provided the required base and one of the most unfortunate part is that even some of our educated class take it as a liability not an asset. we are still in debates of keeping the technology or not even at so called leadership level (and wasting dollars in making it secure in the eyes of masters). my go is use it as an asset and open it for private industrial sector to get best out of it.

    “That was the reason dr abdus salam was removed from the scene and basically corrupt men was backed by bhutto for developing nuclear arms within Pakistan vicinity”

    i think dr salam did great in his area of theoratical physics and it was also his choice not to take part in using the technology for weapons.as far as choice of dr khan was concerned , it was dr khan who provided the option and bhutto had to accept it as paec failed to make major break throughs otherwise nuclear program would ve been a failed program like most of suparco stuff. i dont know y people try to make it a dr khan vs dr salam issue , both are of different areas one in engineer and the other one was top class theoretical physicist. this is another big thing with our vs mentality , we try to undermine one achievement by using another like so called liberals try to undermine missing persons issue particularly aafia issue with anyother issue instead of raising the voice for other issue if they feel it is being neglected.

    “Dr khan was criminal of Pakistan and India too.If you have an offer of US citizenship and have all facilities of living there and in return they would ask you to design to bomb your Karachi.
    If you would have done it what should I call you.
    That is what I am calling dr khan a senseless man an opportunist and a zero character person”

    it seems the grudge is more of his indian origin then anything else.

    i dont say he is perfect but his role in providing our country something advance cannot by under estimated.
    and i dont think he could ve done whatever he is alleged for without government approval , may be they lacked funds to run the project so they did it to get funds for the project or even pay high perks to the team like many big multinational companies and governments pay to their technologists and consultants( so what? there are no restrictions in our constitution for this and we ve not signed any international treaty for this). if there is a breach of contract from dr khan and his team then it should be presented in the court but i dont think there was any such contract.

    there are people who think he was just metallurgist and his role was just enrichment then they should get some lessons in nuclear technology as enrichment is almost 75% part of the process and rest can be achieved by normal engineers, iran’s program despite billions of dollars of fundings is delayed coz they r facing problems in implementing enrichment despite getting alleged designs from aq khan network and others.

  5. Nazia says:

    I am not calling him Indian in term of any abuse but as his real identification which should be matter of proud for any genuine people.
    He denied as association with his birth place that is why I am calling him opportunist.
    These days in his article he gives the fine example of his friends from Bhopal whom once he harassed them with his bomb.
    First he came to Pakistan for better options then he married to dutch women for other nationality and then he advised Bhutto to use his experience of research by cornering many top class nuclear scientist of PAEC.

    He had come under suspicion since 1989 but he had strong lobby so all time his investigation was seized by ruling govt.. Until 2001, however, A.Q. Khan’s illicit activities were overlooked due to the importance of his laboratories to national security as well as his fake created heroic status among the Pakistani populace.

    The first time A.Q. Khan committed a problematic situation in 1984 when a local newspaper quoted him boasting of his achievement in enriching uranium to weapons grade, military cooperation and arms transfers designed to oust the Soviet Union from Afghanistan.
    This was high tension period and not time of artificial statement. However, Khan’s boast helped validate US intelligence findings about Pakistan’s nuclear weapons programme..Remember this was also peak time of military aide from US and drug houses to facilitate afghan war toward Afghanistan.

    Just after three years in 1987,dr . Khan made a similar serious mistake.by disclosing that Pakistan had developed the capability to manufacture a nuclear weapon. First time Zia summoned Khan in order to rebuke him. As per provided dates it was time when dr khan decided to offering Iran and korea, a list of of nuclear technology and P-1 centrifuges.

    One example of this was in 1989, when the ISI Director General reported to President Ghulam Ishaq Khan that A.Q. Khan was meeting ‘suspicious characters’ in Dubai. Rather than intensifying the surveillance on . President ishaq khan always protected Khan’ from wrath of other officials of KRL and Paec and even snubbed heads of intelligence groups thatI not to compromise or complicate A.Q. Khan’s clandestine procurement work..Ishaq khan at that time was highly known as CIA agent in his group as at that time his son inlaw saif ullah was arrested in US on the charges of smuggling heroin in cotton bales.He stayed in US for three months and when he returned he was with his clean man and then promoted to President of Pakistan.
    Government officials during Ishaq khan continually dismissed the PAEC allegations, believing them to be motivated by institutional rivalry.
    In 1996, Chief of Army Staff Jehangir Karama under internal pressures ordered an investigation of the procurement activities and audit financial transactions, of both KRL and PAEC. .A.Q. Khan and his supporters made strong resistance and matter was dropped to VOID t unwanted publicity of the still-covert nuclear weapons production programme.
    Under shairf regime ISI investigation produced hundreds of pages of information on Khan’s personal assets and bank accounts, but again, no significant measures against Khan’s onward proliferation activities were taken following this audit.

    A.Q. Khan reported directly to the highest national authority in the country: first toi Bhutto from 1976 to 1977; then to President Zia from 1977 to 1988; and later to Ghulam Ishaq Khan from 1988 to 1993. The mingling of political power during civilian PresidentIshaq Khan’s tenure saw the chief of army staff being brought into the management of Pakistan’s nuclear programme, dealing directly with A.Q. Khan so that the military could retain authority over the nuclear assets.
    After 1993, due to conflict of sharif and military heads sharif was oust and Khan was therefore usually under the de facto operational control of senior military figures.
    It was time when korea started his share of this technology via dr khan and billion of dollar deals were done in UAE.
    SO all gets it share from such dirty deals who are ruler of state and programm at this time but blame was put on Akhan as he was an old experience chap of this field and he given them ideas of doing so
    .Recently Musharf has already said an interview that ghuari missile was failed but a bluff game was planned under dr khan network not to harass India but boost their marketing in under world where main buyers are korea, Vietnam and Iran at that moments.

  6. united4justice says:

    “Just after three years in 1987,dr . Khan made a similar serious mistake.by disclosing that Pakistan had developed the capability to manufacture a nuclear weapon. First time Zia summoned Khan in order to rebuke him. As per provided dates it was time when dr khan decided to offering Iran and korea, a list of of nuclear technology and P-1 centrifuges.”

    well if u r referring to his conversation with kaldeep nayr then it was done intentionally with pakistan government consent as there was another border tension going on between two countries.

    “First he came to Pakistan for better options then he married to dutch women for other nationality and then he advised Bhutto to use his experience of research by cornering many top class nuclear scientist of PAEC.”

    millions came to pakistan for better options that doesnt make them bound to follow the patriotic definition of some living here. as far PAEC guys here , well it doesnt matter how much senior they were , the reality is in enrichment area they were not having any success.

    “The first time A.Q. Khan committed a problematic situation in 1984 when a local newspaper quoted him boasting of his achievement in enriching uranium to weapons grade, military cooperation and arms transfers designed to oust the Soviet Union from Afghanistan.”

    even it is like this so what ? it doesnt make him criminal. as far as soviet union ouster is concerned pakistan played its role. even though i must say usa or pakistan were not the main force behind soviet defeat , it was afghan nation which defeated them like they are doing it now when all world major powers are against them including so called islamic countries.

    “A.Q. Khan reported directly to the highest national authority in the country: first toi Bhutto from 1976 to 1977; then to President Zia from 1977 to 1988; and later to Ghulam Ishaq Khan from 1988 to 1993. The mingling of political power during civilian PresidentIshaq Khan’s tenure saw the chief of army staff being brought into the management of Pakistan’s nuclear programme, dealing directly with A.Q. Khan so that the military could retain authority over the nuclear assets.
    After 1993, due to conflict of sharif and military heads sharif was oust and Khan was therefore usually under the de facto operational control of senior military figures.”

    its the issue of politics being played and military taking control of nuclear technology like they ve on every other thing. cant blame scientists for this.

    “Recently Musharf has already said an interview that ghuari missile was failed but a bluff game was planned under dr khan network not to harass India but boost their marketing in under world where main buyers are korea, Vietnam and Iran at that moments.”

    well realisticly speaking musharraf is the last person i can trust as now he is in a mood to blackmailing for politcal space in the country. he is even trying to harm the recent civil society movement, which is totally backed by students, professionals, civil society and politicians , by linking it with militancy (though going militant is an available option for them like it was for george washington and team). so its not of that use to comment on his rants.

    “It was time when korea started his share of this technology via dr khan and billion of dollar deals were done in UAE.”

    well first of all billions of dollars (especially the 3 billion dollar figure)is an exaggeration and never presented in the courts. but i can say one thing whatever was being done it was done as part of policy coz pakistan had to enter the market to buy what they need and also in that barter trade for missile technology is also an option. again the issue is why we should consider something illegal if legality is decided by few imperialist powers and that legality doesnot apply to them and their companies working in the area.

    “I am not calling him Indian in term of any abuse but as his real identification which should be matter of proud for any genuine people.”

    not necessary, ask a bengali who suffered from 1971 military operation or families who lost their loved ones in 1947 migration. they remeber their friends and family members on the other side of the border but also they cannot forget what happened with them at the time of partition and even in united india.

    • Nazia says:

      U4J
      dr khan was just an ordinary scientist of 22 grade?Who had given him authority to decide whether Pakistan would attack with nuclear arms or not.It is declared by oath before taking any critical job that he/ she would maintain the secrecy level of his job and details.if such comment as I mentioned had come from statement of COAS or PM then it was valid but rhetoric statement made by him no matter on the consent of heads of state and military but he overruled his status.The reason is he was lone ring leader of this messy game.At that time in Asian setup people are highly unaware of this metallurgical centrifugal technique which was his specialty and he made his way to cash it by dominating his figure beyond than his job.
      He was not among suffer like Bengali.Did he suffer by Pakistan ladies that is why he married to a dutch lady If you refresh your memory that at that time no Paksitani officials of army and Nuclear studies were allowed to have foreign spouses or nationalities but he was again spared by placing aside all state laws.
      I have given you many examples of his unlawful acts and status in country top program but you are not in mood of listening it.For me the person no matter how much important he is for Pakistan if used to of breaching state laws or try to trespass his job limits, should be called criminal.if you wont do so this trend would soon be popular and corrode your all institutes. as he did to our nuclear program and real scientists.

      • united4justice says:

        whatever the grade government gives or whatever the seniority level is given was not the question at that time. the reality is we never had the facility to enrich uranium and he brought the technology and develop the facilities here with his team.

        he married before the program and whats the point here? zulfiqar ali bhutto wife was not pakistani and he was PM. KRL was working like a private organization coz that was the requirement of that time to avoid government delays and undesired intervention. scientists were given independence to conduct their work otherwise if they had to report everything they are doing like it is expected today then forget about any research and development work, it doesnt even happn in complete privately funded projects.

        he may not ve suffered dierectly but he is from the generation which had to choose one option either india or pakistan and he chose pakistan which i think was a great decision.

        “I have given you many examples of his unlawful acts and status in country top program but you are not in mood of listening it.For me the person no matter how much important he is for Pakistan if used to of breaching state laws or try to trespass his job limits, should be called criminal.if you wont do so this trend would soon be popular and corrode your all institutes. as he did to our nuclear program and real scientists.”

        the reality is even after so much allegations , even musharraf didnt put up these allegations in any court or even current governt. they even didnt present the allegations in high court where dr khan had filed a case for his detention in the courts. its just those people who either support musharraf , so called liberals who toe foreign lines or are against nuclear program spared these things.

        government even tried to present dr khan as national security threat and presented many things in the court (eventually rejected by the court) but not much or nothing is presented as far as corruption is concerned.

        things which were allowed to him or facilities which were given to him were part of his contract (we like it or not) and had more to do with policy then with uranium enrichment.

        the only main allegation is transfer of nuclear technology and for that i ve written my opinion many times.

        i again say like i said before, he is not a perfect person like anyone and u may not like his policies but he was not a criminal especially when it comes to allegations like marrying a dutch woman, being of an indian origin and other baseless stuff.

  7. united4justice says:

    “Recently Musharf has already said an interview that ghuari missile was failed but a bluff game was planned under dr khan network not to harass India but boost their marketing in under world where main buyers are korea, Vietnam and Iran at that moments.”

    well realisticly speaking musharraf is the last person i can trust as now he is in a mood to blackmailing for politcal space in the country. he is even trying to harm the recent civil society movement in “Kashmir”, which is totally backed by students, professionals, civil society and politicians , by linking it with militancy (though going militant is an available option for them like it was for george washington and team). so its not of any use to comment on his recent rants.

    • Nazia says:

      It is your realistic approach to consider Musharraf as untrustworthy man but remember he was our President and COAS and great friend of General Kudwai who is still under cover controller of our nuclear programs.On pages his name was removed by our PM but he is still working their under Kiyani leadership,
      SO I mean to say that Musharraf words matter for India to whom you are trying to harass with such arms.
      Both dr khan and Musharraf know what they had done to this program but dr khan is silent as he is main culprit but Musharraf used his position to remove him for saving his miltiary skin in front of US wrath..

      What ever Musharraf say about nuclear work of Pakistan or Kashmir movement is not wrong enough and such verbal confessions can put him under article 6. If kiyani had any professional skills he would have proceed for it but Musharraf has left another duffer head as his relics on our top miltiary seat who is least bothered what Pakistani ex Coas of Pakistan is telling secrets of his job too international media on the name of his political campaign.
      So you are right your junk comment about Musharraf has no worth our discussion but it is informing India like that as heading of this topic represent.

      • united4justice says:

        kiyani is no different , he was representing musharraf in NRO benazir deal and his extension shows Pakistan will keep following the same imperialst policies.

      • Nazia says:

        Kiyani is a political general just like general aslam beig who either work done on US briefing or focus on personal goals.
        We have to confess that Pak army is highly under control of non professionals and wikie leaks all support my ideas that each coming time is bringing more abnormality in political hunch back of GHQ.

  8. united4justice says:

    “Ishaq khan at that time was highly known as CIA agent in his group”

    i m not a big fan of ishaq khan coz he was part of statism policies and centralist but this cia agent thing seems to be another fabricated thing by so called liberals here or people who disagreed with him. ishaq khan was like a finance manager in nuclear program of pakistan and if he was a cia agent then i think nuclear program is a fake thing and so u should not worry much. if we need to disagree with a person or hate a person we need to do it with right reason.

    i dont like zardari or mushi both but i cant blame them for world war one and two or for 1946 nuclear attack on japan.

    • Nazia says:

      I have already told you an incident where h son in law of Ishaq kahn was imprisoned in US for 40 years on heroin smuggling but he moved to US for 3 months and brought him back as clean man.That is why he was known as CIA man in his circle.
      I don’t know how you are convinced that Paksitani nuclear program was not dependent on US aide .
      Read carefully
      The latest documents released by WikiLeaks have revealed that the United States was secretly making efforts to push Pakistan to accept help in removing highly enriched uranium from one of Islamabad’s nuclear facilities. American officials feared the material could be diverted for use in illicit nuclear weapons.

      In May 2009, say the latest WikiLeaks documents, the then U.S Ambassador to Islamabad, Anne Patterson reported that Pakistan was refusing to allow American experts to visit the site. In her reported official communication to Washington, she cited concern expressed by a Pakistani official that “if the local media got word of the fuel removal, they certainly would portray it as the United States taking Pakistan’s nuclear weapons”.

      Now get the facts .
      – Nuclear facilities were designed and constructed by US and Pak army joint venture
      -it was same Musharraf and his groups who did all kind of US inductions in all secret and restricted matters like giving miltiary bases, allowing large numbers of US marines in critical areas even near to khuta camps.
      Musharraf given hundred of Pakistanis to US officials but didn’t let them to go near to Dr qadeer
      -Drone attacks are done by the guidance of Local intelligence groups.
      – after this refusal down fall of Musharraf was started and lawyers movement was energized.
      – musarf has alread declared about failure of our missile program.

      So all these facts revealed that our nuclear program of arms are not active as projected by our army.It is a real bogeyman whom terror is being maintained by keeping US inspectors away from that vicinity and I am sure the money spared for such projects are going in pockets of big wigs of this game.

      • united4justice says:

        well son in law and father in law are two different people.

        “-Drone attacks are done by the guidance of Local intelligence groups.
        – after this refusal down fall of Musharraf was started and lawyers movement was energized.
        – musarf has alread declared about failure of our missile program.”

        musharraf never gave refusal for drone attacks or initially missile attacks. if u remember damadola attack and see how instead of condemning it musharraf owned it then u can understand the trend at that time. frequency has increased as per new policy of shifting the main war theatre in pakistan but even this policy was initiated in musharraf time so one cannot vindicate him.

        attempts were made by usa to hijack lawyers movement so that on both sides their game remains in tact but good thing is it remained pretty much on track except for few things but i think its very much clear who was genuine and who was not.

        cant comment on current nuclear status much especially when army is now incharge and also wiki leaks based their reports on the documents sent by usa officials to their offices.

        cant even trust 100% on wiki leaks too as they ve also released selected documents related to particular areas. still the real master minds and supporters are unknown. there are many big players and lobbies working in the world to promote their interests and not sure who they are working for.

        still i say scientists cannot be blamed for policy issues. if policies were wrong then policy makers should be brought to justice not the victims or tools.

  9. united4justice says:

    also i dont think usa should be much worried about nuclear program especially when army is under usa command and army is controlling nuclear program.

    we should dump these slave policies not the nuclear program, it can be of great use if vision is there.

  10. Nazia says:

    i say scientists cannot be blamed for policy issues. if policies were wrong then policy makers should be brought to justice not the victims or tools.
    U4J
    Surely scientisst and engineers are not blamed for political polices but each scientist and engineer has some code of ethics and he has to follow it since the start of job.Although the ethics with real spirit is needed when any professional reaches its top position as now he/she owns responsibility of whole nation who is paying his/her salary and high class perks of living in this poor country.
    If Dr khan worked for any private group I never criticized him like that but as he took top position for almost 30 years then it matters.
    He must know that Nuclear arms technology was allowed s for deterrence purpose not to transfer to other countries along with heavy inventories for earning private money
    If he was kept in pressure he could have resigned and back to Holland as did by dr salam but as he was right accomplice of generals so he was treated like that where mighty saved their skin as per law of jungle.

  11. Nazia says:

    U4J
    Your are right that from men point of view it doesn’t matter that he was first Indian and had foreign wife but through womanish way of judging it matters as we judge human personality by observing his/her small private acts of life.
    It helps us to estimate that what this person can do in his private jobs who has tricky and zig zag way of living.
    For you it is not surprise that Bhutto, Gen faisal alvi and dr khan who were ignored to apply govt law all had foreign wives contrary to state law which prohibited govt and miltiary officers to have foreign spouses at that time.They all faced wrath of miltiary, Bhutto and alvi were killed and dr khan is isolated in his house.

  12. ahmed says:

    Nuclear arms is dangerous for humanity and blasphemy laws for few whoare weak minority. But on both. Action it is chemistry of human mindthat works behind destuctive ideas..

  13. Nazia says:

    it is exactly my point that why we only focus our energies and efforts toward human destruction and killing.That is why we are now labeled as exporter of terrorism.

  14. Faiz says:

    Pakistani is categorized in uncivilized countries.Its most of changes, laws and developing plans are like suicidal killing of its own system.
    Nuclear program, blasphemy laws suicidal bombers .jihadi organizations all are meant to kill Pakistanis and destroy Pakistan.

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