Dr Afia an opportunist or a potential terrorist


Dr Afia was part of such family which was once considered favorite of establishment and CIA lobby.Her parents were  part of  jihadistan movement in Pakistan during General zia period.They were awarded by good privileges to initiate concept of jihad among disturb youth in Karachi and nearby areas.Her mother while living in posh setup of Karachi promoted extremism in secular culture of Karachi through Dars like gatherings where main theme was to go for jihad against non Muslims.

No doubt her own kids were studying in modern schools and then all were granted US scholarship in prestigious universities.Further more all   followed the procedure of  getting US citizenship on available opportunity.

Such patterns of religious congregation  exaggerated in Zia’s regime under some handful of opportunist in army , political and social circles.They  were highly benefited , awarded funds and privileges to project the war of Afghanistan  in Pakistani society as call of jihad to Pakistani youth.Interestingly none of their sons and daughters had come forward to become freedom fighters but no doubt they used this fund to study in western universities and then enjoyed settled business ventures  which were gifted to them by their jihad promoter parents.

This network of promoting extremism  had  got its roots in youth circle of urban areas and deprived rural suburbs under ISI manpower and influence of some religious political parties.Young people especially rebellious boys of our in frustrated society were successfully brainwashed for such kind of war and establishments along its cronies  transferred them in war areas.Their status were just like illegitimate soldiers of Pakistan whom were never acknowledged on any official papers.Thousands of families have lost their boys in this bloody game and still waiting to hear any news that where those misguided boys have gone a long time ago.

So in such environment and typical time Dr afia’s  parents played active role in religious politics and moved their kids in safe environments of US.One can easily see the glimpses of modern getup of dr Afia when she was graduated from US universities.I mean no head covering , updated dress code so nothing was wrong since she got married with doctor from Karachi whom she met in USA.

As per her biography read and heard from different sources she created mess in her married life due to her participation in fund raising activities for typical Arabic group on the name of jihad for oppressed Muslim community.One can say that during her stay she was trapped by a group who had same approach which her parents were adopted in Karachi to set a snare of young minds to work under some religious themes.

Tit for tat or process of retribution had been started in her family too  but this time in the land where she was sent to get all opportunities to excel like successful person.

So in my view she was very over charged daughter of her mother who long time ago was in mission of recruiting jihadis from Paksitani soil through her emotional and rhetorical lectures.At that moment she never thought that her own daughter could have been trapped like that in one of liberal areas of the world where she was sent to get high status of modern world.

It was not surprise that lady Afia never ever supported any movement against women crimes in Pakistan but actively worked for Bosnian and Afghanistan groups.She many times irritated her husband on domestic issues specially her negligence regarding giving time to her young siblings and husband.

Her regular contacts with Arab men were basic reason of her serious martial breakdown with her husband who finally decided to end his married life.So can one can justify her role as  Muslim wife in this regard?

Does Islam encourage women to rebel against humble Muslim husband for continuing their personal desires on the name of mission of Islam?

But she crossed all limits which a married  women should have never thought in any case if she is bearing young kids as her utmost responsibility.Kid are not in need of any rebellious movement or high careers of parents but always in need of protection and love of their parents specially in their young ages.

Soon after getting divorce she took no time to marry an Arab who had come in the list of most wanted terrorist in US books.So I am still in search of any kind of Pakistaniat in her acts.

So in one way she was getting all benefits from US govts and on the other side she was irritating the US security services whom were already bugging her on many cases including her  links with   people  involved in insurgency in Kashmir and Afghanistan, her diamond smuggling effort to Liberia for her groups.She was doing all by carrying US passport.

So events showed that her marriage to an Arab provoked her ex husband to give solid proof of her involvement in forbidding activities in US soil.That made her arrest where? nobody knows but probably in Afghanistan.

Those who are crying that she is daughter of Pakistan, must know she had taken US citizenship long time ago and her all kids are US nationals too.It is not her but her other sibling included his brother has a successful professional and social  life in Houston having American passport.No Agency perturbed him a single time except for routine investigations as part of family who played active role with civilian Taliban of Pakistan.

As per her last email to her friend while she was in Pakistan and she was eagerly trying to return back to USA for up bring and education of her kids.So who are claiming that she is true daughter of Pakistan is just wrongly  politicizing the whole issue toward religious extremism and her veil covering transformation stature in front of US court and international media at this middle age is also showing  same kind of trend in her attitude.One should consider her and her family as top beneficiary of last regime when trademark of talibainsation was considered as insignia of strong religious association  .

The case was in American court and land as they are handling an active member of alqaida movement who is also US citizen too.US govt given her full fledged scholarships programs and citizenship to serve US community.But her attachment to  Arabs invloved in under ground activities placed her under the list of most wanted terrorist in this high time of anti taliban era.

CIA could have killed her in Afghanistan or Guantanamo jails but they had full documentary proof of her involvement so they put her in front of judiciary which has a popular repute of  unbiased and strong decisions even against strong US personalities.So norms of justice have been fulfilled in US soil on US citizen so nothing to make hue and cry.

That is real time that her mother should realized the pain of  loss of misguided child who was under alien’s control .She lost her daughter who was brainwashed in the same manner as she once did as strong worker of Jamat Islami so seeing her age one can say she has lost everything just to gain nothing being part of  representative of wrong faith.

Now she can feel the hollowness and insecurity of  old mothers whom children were driven to war and tense areas as soldiers of Islam leaving them alone in time of need and desperation.She was lucky or  perhaps more torturous for her that at least she know the whereabouts of her child who is living although in confinement but in good living conditions.Some mothers might never heard a single reply from their lost souls.

So one should learn strong lesson through her example that this is ultimate fate of majority of opportunists who follow the trends of international politics .Before chasing any dreams , followers should first see the practical approach/ actions of their preachers too.If  such dream sellers never bring their kids and sibling in such  world of fantasy then one should quit them without giving the second thought or at least argue with them who floated abnormal ideas in prevailing  cultures.Dream makers like family of Afia try to create fake world in a normal system where ignorance and weakness of masses are streamlined to get even anti state effects.This might give them monetary and hidden opportunities to raise their worldly status but can create chaos in a system where their wrong notions become reason of polarization among communities living there for long times.

So we all are reaping by  getting identity of a terrorist state under the concept that was  sown by her family like groups  in our soils.Now this fire has  been reached to their homes too.

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19 Responses to Dr Afia an opportunist or a potential terrorist

  1. faisal says:

    The charges for which you are alleging her are not even presented in the courts. And how baseless is this that if a person is arrested or i should say abducted for some reasons and didnt get charge for it , shows what?
    Its clear hypocrisy of so called liberal class who hide their sectarian and social class prejudices under the disguise of liberalism, secularism or even nationalism.

    • Nazia says:

      Faisal
      American courts are not under pressure of govt or miltiary and have a good reputation of following the standard of justice.
      The agents who presented her in courts are not fools of the army who would reveal CIA secrets .They had full homework of what they were presenting in front of independent judges and jury.She is being presented as justification of American war games on three Muslim countries which are funded from tax payers of US.
      It is not matter of prejudice or sectarian difference but we should accept the truth the people specially from civilian setup worked under Jihad or JI wings are now become useless for those groups who actually raised their status at the time of need in Afghanistan.
      You see our all mullahs and JI leadership speak against America and declare jihad against US in our soil and in international circle but none of them were picked or removed from the scenes.In this game of eradication of man made mafias usually middle men/women are removed and that is what going on for such people.

  2. united4justice says:

    First of all the case shouldn’t at all be proceeded in US. Alleged crime never happened there and the arrest wasn’t made from there.

    Secondly it was a jury decision comprising of common people and it was the wrong intention of Obama administration to run the trial in Newyork. It was a political move to gain support of 9-11 victims as she was without any proofs named as a Lady Al-Qaida. In court of law there are many ways to deal with secret issues through special commission comprising of neutral members even in many international war tribunals sensitive data is shared. Just because it has become a Mullah issue or against the purpose of this so called war against terror it doesn’t mean that the victim is not protected.

    Her abduction is important because it happened in 2003 from Afghanistan not in Mid 2008 (issue was raised well before mid 2008 and showed her arrest in mid 2008).

    you can see the initial jury verdict below :

    http://united4justice.wordpress.com/?s=aafia+indictment

    he judgment has many flaws but just to give you some idea:

    – It doesn’t prove anything regarding her affiliation with Al-Qaida which was the primary reason for her abduction.

    – It doesn’t discuss her abduction from Karachi in 2003 with her 3 children and the feared death of her youngest son by the hands of kidnappers.

    – The decision talks of her having some attack plans. No evidence quality was checked and if we look at this point in line with the point of her abduction from Karachi in 2003 , this turns out to be as true as “Iraq having WMDs”. All this is given in case background to create a fear among the reader about the accused without any solid proofs.

    -The jury has given decision against her for attacking US citizens and soldiers even though no fingerprints were found on the M-4 rifle and no proof of firing with M-4 riffle were found and presented by FBI.

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    In this case National Security won the battle against justice.

    • Nazia says:

      Faisal
      I am not expert of US laws related to state terrorism but one thing I was sure that case like hers where network of intelligence agencies are invloved usually come to court with minimum charge sheet in which least kind of evidences are provided to court and media.
      In case of open and real charges, they have to reveal their secret mssions which usually never come in kind of national interests.
      This can also harm the secret working and personals of such agencies.It was not easy job for those agencies too to bring such a case into courts where law has always an edge on their working.So usually suck kind of arrests are either removed from the scene or placed in extreme detention.
      What ever you claim was clear to her lawyers and her legal heirs too who are US citizens so why they couldnt breach this so called fake charge sheet.This is same city of NY where recently drama of Mosque near 911 site and then Quran distortion scene was tried to create but we all saw that US govt favored Muslim community.
      So I have already told you that Intelligence group usually fabricate evidences to camouflage their real work but it is very difficult that they would pick an Innocent victim for all such big drama.
      .She was invloved in wrong doings and evidence were provided to CIA by her ex husband and their network therefore she was arrested after two years of 911 incidents.
      Even Pakistani officials who are representing this case on behalf of Pakistani govt know well that she was active member of jihad organization and her 2nd marriage to an Arab linked with this group was another proof her firm stand on her actions.That is why people are least bothered.
      You see that US also demanded General mehmmod , general javaid and admiral karamat by CIA but you see how they were saved by creating fake excuses.
      This was same happened in case of Dr AQ khan were few middle men were caught in Europe and UAE areas and put in jail and all real big fish were ignored.This is all placed in the favour of national security by ignoring justice.
      I have already concluded moral lessons from her story in the last lines of my topic .You can read it.
      You might be right that technically they might be lacking but option of appeal is open to her lawyer and family members lets see how they would proceed.

  3. united4justice says:

    I hope the link below will help you in understanding the issue from the point of view of Law especially Pakistani constitution.

    http://united4justice.wordpress.com/2008/08/16/peddle-a-citizen-inc-by-babar-sattar-in-the-news/

  4. Nazia says:

    Pakistani constitution is not applied out of boundary of Pakistan.I am sure that jury who passed a verdict against Afia even would nt have known the location of Pakistan in world map so how would they know that is Pakistan’s constitution

  5. Nazia says:

    Dont blame the jury for all.They made the decision as per their training through crash courses in a month.
    This is their system.But you are ignoring Dr afia brother is well settled US citizens along with many for whom she worked against consent of her ex husband.They hired few lawyers and as their financial position is strong so it means lawyers should be from strong firm.So I cant agree with your observation.Even Afia was very calm in her final verdict.I have already told you that Afia has serious kind of abnormality in her personality due to some kind of negligence in her childhood time when her mother was busy to giving lectures in jihadistan.
    her abnormality was only felt by her ex husband after many years of marriage.
    Do you deny he is also humble and religious man but he was not prosecuted like that
    I would give you another example of a family who are facing same kind of sitaution like of Afia but not projected like that.
    Admiral karamt who strongly worked for jihadi groups under ISI is passing the same phase.His only son has become extremist and vanished from house time to time.They even infected few young minds of their family whose majority are either qadiyanis or secular since the time of their forefathers.But the greed for money and personal projections at the time of 1980s these people opted the ideas of ruler and now suffering the curses of hypocrisy for misguiding the weak people due to their ignorance.
    I find lot of resemblance on fate of two families.

  6. united4justice says:

    “They hired few lawyers and as their financial position is strong so it means lawyers should be from strong firm”

    the lawyers who defended the case on aafia’s side were hired by pak govt. against the will of aafia and her family. this is another which shows a setup trial.

    “I have already told you that Afia has serious kind of abnormality in her personality due to some kind of negligence in her childhood time when her mother was busy to giving lectures in jihadistan.
    her abnormality was only felt by her ex husband after many years of marriage.”

    again stories and ve nothing to do with the case. a person who is doing research related to learning patterns and holds a degree from MIT cannot be mentally weak or disturbed to do all this. most of the stories are fabricated either by fbi or isi to make the case weak as this has become a big issue in opposition of this so called war on terror.

    “I would give you another example of a family who are facing same kind of sitaution like of Afia but not projected like that.”

    this is another wrong approach to weaken the case of one victim by using another example of similar sort. i say even if one case is used to uncover this criminal practive and expose whole chain of command behind then its good and so far the approach is towards this direction. yvonne riddley and imran khan exposed this case and so it got attention and so it gave other victim families and anti-war circles the chance to take a stand on the issue. this is the main reason for high projection of the case.

    “Admiral karamt who strongly worked for jihadi groups under ISI is passing the same phase.His only son has become extremist and vanished from house time to time.They even infected few young minds of their family whose majority are either qadiyanis or secular since the time of their forefathers.”

    its admiral karamat and families issue , cannot be used to target a victim of injustice based on this.

    “But the greed for money and personal projections at the time of 1980s these people opted the ideas of ruler and now suffering the curses of hypocrisy for misguiding the weak people due to their ignorance.
    I find lot of resemblance on fate of two families.”

    i disagree with this approach at all. try to go through the case with an open mind and the charges set. USA system is not very ideal and it has a chance of getting under the influence of naitonal security card (not in every situation but where core targets are involved) also there are other examples of national security taking over justice for e.g. Vikram Budhi case of an indian blogger jailed for writing some comments against bush on some website.

    This whole theory of ideal system is wrong , the system is good but it has got loop holes and especially after 9-11 things r a bit more foggy.

  7. faisal says:

    “They hired few lawyers and as their financial position is strong so it means lawyers should be from strong firm”

    the lawyers who defended the case on aafia’s side were hired by pak govt. against the will of aafia and her family. this is another which shows a setup trial.

    “I have already told you that Afia has serious kind of abnormality in her personality due to some kind of negligence in her childhood time when her mother was busy to giving lectures in jihadistan.
    her abnormality was only felt by her ex husband after many years of marriage.”

    again stories and ve nothing to do with the case. a person who is doing research related to learning patterns and holds a degree from MIT cannot be mentally weak or disturbed to do all this. most of the stories are fabricated either by fbi or isi to make the case weak as this has become a big issue in opposition of this so called war on terror.

    “I would give you another example of a family who are facing same kind of sitaution like of Afia but not projected like that.”

    this is another wrong approach to weaken the case of one victim by using another example of similar sort. i say even if one case is used to uncover this criminal practive and expose whole chain of command behind then its good and so far the approach is towards this direction. yvonne riddley and imran khan exposed this case and so it got attention and so it gave other victim families and anti-war circles the chance to take a stand on the issue. this is the main reason for high projection of the case.

    “Admiral karamt who strongly worked for jihadi groups under ISI is passing the same phase.His only son has become extremist and vanished from house time to time.They even infected few young minds of their family whose majority are either qadiyanis or secular since the time of their forefathers.”

    its admiral karamat and families issue , cannot be used to target a victim of injustice based on this.

    “But the greed for money and personal projections at the time of 1980s these people opted the ideas of ruler and now suffering the curses of hypocrisy for misguiding the weak people due to their ignorance.
    I find lot of resemblance on fate of two families.”

    i disagree with this approach at all. try to go through the case with an open mind and the charges set. USA system is not very ideal and it has a chance of getting under the influence of naitonal security card (not in every situation but where core targets are involved) also there are other examples of national security taking over justice for e.g. Vikram Budhi case of an indian blogger jailed for writing some comments against bush on some website.

    This whole theory of ideal system is wrong , the system is good but it has got loop holes and especially after 9-11 things r a bit more foggy.

  8. Nazia says:

    Just tell me why their family in spite of knowing that Pakistani govt was behind her arrest they allowed a Pakistani lawyer to prosecute his case.
    are they ignorant the facts of this US support govt of zardari who couldn’t follow a simple procedure of investigation for his wife a strong international woman?.
    so how could they trust people like those on this critical matter.
    Do you deny her family role in movement of jihadisan which they once started in karachi during Zia regime and for which they were obliged by US govt in different ways.
    do you think she was not involved in smuggling of blood diamond?
    why you people are ignoring written statements and ordeal of her ex husband against her.Is he possess ambiguity in his character?
    She had no history of any kind of involvement in anykind of movement of human rights but all his life revolved around Arab groups among who he picked one as her 2nd husband.
    sorry I don’t agree with you.
    you might be technically right but on moral grounds I have lot of doubts about her nature which is rebellious and aggressive.
    Who told you that graduate of MIT cant go for some kind of abnormality.
    I have seen many extremist of JI who worked as top professors of Punjab university on very important post.They were quite abnormal, extremely religious and we never placed them in list of good teachers.Same in my practical life I handled many abnormal engineers of top class universities of world.so cant agree with your this logic of MIT learner.It is not only case of admiral kirmat but my few cousins almost age group of dr Afia have turned to be long beard or head covering professionals via studying in US universities.You can say they are living opposite to such setup as they lived in Pk with us at our student times.Now we are shocked to see their religious get up and living style while living in US. we call them osma bin laden of Pakistan They are working there for last many years and regularly visit local tableegi annual function.No body from any side ever cross questioned them bu they are under observation only.
    I never sat US system is ideal but they acted on proper feed back and her family members settled there couldn’t play a single role to prove her innocence.

  9. united4justice says:

    “Do you deny her family role in movement of jihadisan which they once started in karachi during Zia regime and for which they were obliged by US govt in different ways.”

    many people with religious mindsets were exploited for afghan war including those who are living normal lives nowdays. it was a war situation and we were fighting that war and people were mobilized for this war. if there was criminality invovled (disagree with the policiy is another thing) then it should be presented in the court and all the policy makers shold be trialed first. also even if her family was involved in some alleged activity then it doesnt make a person criminal.

    “do you think she was not involved in smuggling of blood diamond?”

    no , these stories were not even presented by fbi or cia in the court , they just floated them on media for so called liberals to pick them up and spread further.

    “why you people are ignoring written statements and ordeal of her ex husband against her.Is he possess ambiguity in his character?”

    again his lies were never presented in the court or even used in the court. the statements in media he gave especially regarding the picture were proved wrong by yvone ridley and governor of ghazni himself.

    “She had no history of any kind of involvement in anykind of movement of human rights but all his life revolved around Arab groups among who he picked one as her 2nd husband.
    sorry I don’t agree with you.
    you might be technically right but on moral grounds I have lot of doubts about her nature which is rebellious and aggressive.
    Who told you that graduate of MIT cant go for some kind of abnormality.
    I have seen many extremist of JI who worked as top professors of Punjab university on very important post.They were quite abnormal, extremely religious and we never placed them in list of good teachers.”

    Thats y i say mos of the opposition is an issue of social class prejudices or differences not on the basis of legality, morality or anything.

    i dont believe in depriving people from basic human rights on the basis of what they think. leave aside a person with JI mindset etc i will not accept these kinds of things to happen with others whether belong to so called left/right finge or mullah/sufi extremes or shia/wahabi groups etc.

    once wrong principles are set and accepted as norms then it will be just a matter of time who gets caught and when.

    whatever the cases were they should be presented in pakistani courts before selling her with her kids to usa. i need to say with regret that we are so blinded by our sectarian, social class and other prejudices that we ve completely forgotten the way of thinking justly and freely.

    “u can say they are living opposite to such setup as they lived in Pk with us at our student times.Now we are shocked to see their religious get up and living style while living in US. we call them osma bin laden of Pakistan They are working there for last many years and regularly visit local tableegi annual function.No body from any side ever cross questioned them bu they are under observation only.”

    its just a matter of coming on the radar for right or wrong reasons. try to look into what is happening with liberitarian or anarchist groups or activists in usa. the state is becoming a national security state and they are transferring their paranoia to the rest of the world.
    in hitler’s time ppl( including those jews who didnt come on the radar )used to present the similar arguments when many jews were persecuted, the realization only came when all were targetted and a new war broke in the whole world.

  10. Nazia says:

    These days I am in travelling mode so cant give you links of details of smuggling of blood diamonds.It is not an afia but many popular people of the world belong to show biz of US and south africa were invloved in this game.That was same kind of money generating game which was once played in our soil under Generl fazal haq where heroin was smuggled b our top political and social people to outer world just to produce money for Islamic jihad.
    Had any body convicted big fish like Fazal haq and saifullah family in that deals/It is only middle man like dr afia who were presented to hide the international crime scene and saving big wigs of criminal world.Dr AQ khan and his racket was another example.All motivated front men were caught and nobody presented charge sheet against big fish.
    I have already told you that in bobby traps of intelligences agencies there is no point of return and that is why they pick emotional people of young ages for wrong acts and they are always put on different kind of charges.
    His husband detail s are common on electronic media and not a single time he denied all this.he was comfortably returned to Pakistan and living here.
    There is no prejudice in my mind about her sect or on social issues but I have made a through research on her acts and I have found nothing in her favour.
    Yes she was on radar and then caught after chasing for many years.But I agree that her charge sheet was not real as CIA operatives are handled this case without coming in front courts to avoid disclosure of their double games.
    Yes this is bad time for Islamic followers on the basis of extremism.It didnt concern to us if we are not targeting like stray dogs on our streets in the process of eradication which has been started with this war and terror.

  11. united4justice says:

    well blood diamond issue is there but if someone is accused of being involved in it then it should ve been presented int he court before giving punishment, just because blood diamond thing happens and some stories are related to this and aafia thing doesn’t prove she was involved. as far as dr AQ khan issue is concerned, i think all the countries should ve the right of access to all sorts of technologies. i dont accept the idea of international regulations protecting the interests of few countries, i still consider him a hero. they were given a task and they completed it (again its a policy issue) and even if they used their talent to gain some barter trade (there was no so called legal free market so i dont find it bad to go for other options)for their country or some money for themselves then its a right of every human being. he could ve earned a lot elsewhere and could ve avoided the undue humiliation he and lots of other scientists faced.

    “Yes this is bad time for Islamic followers on the basis of extremism.It didnt concern to us if we are not targeting like stray dogs on our streets in the process of eradication which has been started with this war and terror.”

    its mainly not based on extremism , its mainly based on sectarianism and social class differences at local level. however at the bigger level it is mainly corporatism and people who don’t fit in this concept.
    the biggest blunder our policy makers did in this war is that they tried to settle sectarian and social class issues through this war or one can also say they used sectarian and social class differences to expand the war , extend the control over the lives of people by exploiting fear of each other and to drag a foreign with in our society which has detroyed our social fabric.

  12. Nazia says:

    You consider Dr afia and Aq khan as heroes but I place them in category of zeroes.Dr khan is our crimnal and he should be trialed but as big wigs have to save their souls so he is being protected like that.
    If I believe on your statemenst then why Dr afia family members are enjoying US life.Her daughter was also kept in US.No body has single time tried to denounce his/her citizen ship against her prosecution.
    Lets see in coming days how they would defend her and then we would discuss.

    your golden words

    s far as dr AQ khan issue is concerned, i think all the countries should ve the right of access to all sorts of technologies. i dont accept the idea of international regulations protecting the interests of few countries, i still consider him a hero. they were given a task and they completed it (again its a policy issue) and even if they used their talent to gain some barter trade (there was no so called legal free market so i dont find it bad to go for other options)for their country or some money for themselves then its a right of every human being. he could ve earned a lot elsewhere and could ve avoided the undue humiliation he and lots of other scientists faced.

    trust me I have no words to said against it as I am strong reactant of those people who misuse the govt resources,positions and trust of people.I consider Dr khan on that level.I have lot of mass in mind to present on his black deals and how he and his gang insecure the whole world by supplying such destructive technology to smaller groups.which I would try to bring under my new topic.
    In short I am highly against of such characters who justified wrong doings on real national interests.

  13. united4justice says:

    just a correction, Dr Aafia as victim and Dr AQ Khan as hero.

    “If I believe on your statemenst then why Dr afia family members are enjoying US life.Her daughter was also kept in US.No body has single time tried to denounce his/her citizen ship against her prosecution.”

    again for people here they think america as one dimensional country and either u need to ve master-slave relationship or enemy-enemy relationship and their is no room for honorable relationship. i dont know the exact circumstances y the family is still living but i know one thing there r many justice loving people who r trying to keep america what it claims to be , free and just.there are many libertarians, anarchist movements, human rights groups and others who think in many ways like i or people like me think. its a war between freedom/justice and statism/corporatism (this war is just one phase of it). living in a country doesnt mean if some institutions did bad to ur family u should accept it as ur job is there. if ur logic is accepted then i think people of nwfp , blacochistan, missing persons should leave the country at once or should all get united to get an independent land.

    The reality of the fact is the country has nuclear capability on its soil and it is more than just bombs or missiles etc. GIK and KU Microbiology institute are just two examples. If you can come out of global policing laws concepts of Imperialism and think in terms of the fact that everyone has the right to acquire technology or develop it in their own land then things may look a bit different.

    “trust me I have no words to said against it as I am strong reactant of those people who misuse the govt resources,positions and trust of people.I consider Dr khan on that level.I have lot of mass in mind to present on his black deals and how he and his gang insecure the whole world by supplying such destructive technology to smaller groups.”

    again its a policy issue can’t blame the individuals. i will be against his actions if it is proved that there were any deals which were against the contract given to him. i say even if they had to enter in a market not liked by usa or our so called liberals then can u please give a so called legal alternative?

    ” would try to bring under my new topic.
    In short I am highly against of such characters who justified wrong doings on real national interests.”

    i myself is against the use of nuclear weapons but not against the technology as it has lot more great uses (unfortunately our so called liberals also lack the vision for this)and infact AQ khan in zia’s time, nawaz sharif and musharraf’s time floated the idea of using the technology base for automobile industry base. but obviously if understanding is not there at the level of decision makers then one cannot blame the tools ( in this case scientists). do u think that things which were being allegedly done by him could ve been done without government or ghq knowledge?

    i know things may not be as straight as they look but u cannot blame the tools for that and as far as their contributions as scientists is concerned one needs to know it was a sort of miracle to ve this advance technology base in our country with minimum tax burden on taxpayers (for any reason of barter trade or anything else)as compared to army and huge technology deals we do for buying old technologies.

    the reason why i think nuclear and missile programs were good for the country because it could ve given us a chance to reduce the size of our military (not only it can save money but our political situation will improve with this) and focus of our defense doctrine could ve been shifted to indigenous technology base.
    however i am against using much of taxpayers money for this purpose but think more private sector should ve been involved on the basis of free market economy and private funded research (i know it is not good thing for imperialist powers serving corporatism and our so called liberals) but again this was not the decisions for the scientists to be made. in fact for me even national security shouldn’t be monoplized by state and its officers leave aside doing wrong for national interests but i dont keep things in boxes espcially when it comes to the rights of people including our scientists who could ve earned a lot of money and reputation elsewhere.

  14. Nazia says:

    Give me some time and I would try to explain why I am highly against Nuclear weapons.
    Did Pakistan reduce its army after getting nuclear arms and modern missiles system?
    Each year has brought more increase in defense budget with rising number of cantonments.
    How much nuclear arms helped you in this war and terror?
    These faith motivated people are ready for all kind of destruction.Thanks they have no knowledge of it otherwise at least they would have been used it against our soldiers too.
    For me both Afia and dr Khan are corrupt opportunists who got all favor through their respective govt after receiving maximum perks but their greed took them for better opportunities of getting monetary benefits.

  15. She says:

    not clear that dr Afia is terrorist or opportunist but Pakistani people has caught real terrorist from Lahore,It is time to show power of legal an judicial l system of Pakistan.Here no jury is needed as hundred men and many cameras are witness of Hollywood action of this amerci.
    it is our time chilllll:D

  16. Nazia says:

    Judges are still unable to reach to near culprits of terrorism as no reporting agency is in position to provide solid evidence and law enforcing agencies cant reach to real culprits so intelligence failures is the major reason go our failed action to curb terrorism

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